Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, here we are – and I’m so excited to be part of this Big Bold Health podcast experience with Rachelle Robinett! Let me just say a couple of preliminary words before we have the pleasure and privilege of getting Rachelle involved.
As you know, this whole field of healthcare has been a long-standing passion of mine, going back now – I hate to even say it – more than four decades, hard to believe! But I’ve had the privilege over those years of meeting many, many people, and what I’ve come to recognize is that this wave of health vigilance and health advocacy is really carried by and driven by leaders who have a certain energy. They have a certain vitality, they have a certain perspective, they have a certain sense of community about them that is infective and infectious and brings people with them into this world of self-regulation, of people taking charge, of being part of their own life experience in which they’re not a victim but they’re actually orchestrating their life.
What I’ve recognized is that the generation that’s coming up now behind me – and now it’s two generations behind me – are individuals that have an extraordinary vision about what the world should be and how it could be, and then how to make it that way so that we restore and re-nourish values that can lead to the perpetuation of survival and flourishing of joy and bliss, and great opportunities for achievement over the course of years to come.
One of those people happens to be Rachelle Robinett, so that’s why I’m so privileged to have her in this discussion. I’ve known Rachelle for many years, I won’t say how many, but let’s just say it’s more than a few, and she’s grown up to be an incredible force of nature in the natural world. She’s an herbalist, she’s a nutrition expert, she’s a personality, she is an entrepreneur, she is a guide and teacher. That’s a pretty reasonable biography just to start with, but we could add a lot of other things to what she is – an individual whose personality will illuminate by her own presence.
With that introduction, Rachelle, thanks so much for joining us on the Big Bold Health Podcast – and I can’t think of anyone that may better represent Big Bold Health than Rachelle Robinett.
So, let me start in the usual place I probably should. What brought you with all of your talents and background experience into this field, and keeps you as a person who’s so dedicated to its evolution?
Rachelle Robinett:
Well, I mean firstly, thank you so much for that introduction. That was definitely my favorite ever – so I’m glad it’s recorded, I really appreciate it!
Yeah. Gosh, what brought us here?
I think that there’s a combination of factors from growing up in a very health-aware home. Both of my parents in different ways were very much in medicine, in Western medicine, in natural medicine and nutrition, and in just having an interest in the way that the human body works and the way that the body and mind work together.
We would bang our knees or get a bloody nose or get a headache, and it wasn’t “Quick, let’s fix it.” It was: why does this thing happen? Why do we have this symptom? What is your body telling you? What can we learn? What’s happening here?
I think some of those lessons ultimately did bring me to where I am now. It’s this sort of curiosity and this perpetual sort of interest in the way that the body, mind, and the natural world all work together. I think it’s also the need in the world that drew it out of me professionally.
So, I was not intending to be an herbalist – I came to New York to work in fashion. I was not intending to be sort of in the health and wellness industry, and I used to have conversations as a kid with my dad sort of vehemently like, “I don’t want to do that. That’s not what I want to do. I want to be creative and artsy and do this other stuff.”
But I had a knowledge that I was using personally and have been using my whole life and the world wanted it. They said, “Can you please help me?” “Can you teach me how to eat?” “Can you teach me how to use these herbs?” “Can you share what you know?” And after hearing that enough times, I said, “Okay, okay, yes…” and began Supernatural.
That’s the very short story, but I would say being steeped in it from a young age, practicing it personally with extreme dedication for as long as I can remember, really. Then having the world say, “We want some of that,” birthed the coming out of Supernatural, which is my company.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, I think you said so many really important things there that I just want to highlight, the first of which is listening to what the world is telling us. I think all of us, as we go through our life experience, get messages from the universe that kind of help guide us if we’re willing to listen.
But often, we’re so busy with our own sense as to what’s around us we don’t hear these broader things that are coming to us that might be enlightening and maybe frameshifting, and maybe miraculous alternatives or options for us to explore. I think it takes a certain kind of personality, to be open to being a listener while you’re also focused down onto doing the work of the daily job and whatever you think your task is.
So, I want to compliment you on your capability of still maintaining, from your artful perspective, what the world was asking you and telling you and also reinforcing in you that you’re good at – and it kind of giving you that atta-person go for it! That’s number one. Number two, I think to move from the west coast to New York, which is a great laboratory for self-development and experience and exploration and pathfinding, but not everybody who comes into that environment has a successful experience. So what do you think allowed you to be successful in making that transition from a west coast, maybe more simple universe, to a more complex social matrix?
Rachelle Robinett:
Oh, man – It was rough, I’ll say that. New York is not easy in the sort of getting-to-know process. The only thing that I can think of is just pure grit, to be honest. I had no friends, no job, no long-term place to live. Just that story of two suitcases and a lot of ambition.
Those early years really tested, how bad do you want this? How much do you really have in you to kind of make it here? I think it was this grit that is partly nature and partly nurture – I definitely have both (been taught it).
We grew up on a farm, we learned hard work and we learned to sort of find the limits of what you physically and mentally are capable of doing. I think the combination of just the day-to-day sort of survival in a place like New York as a young person with no real safety net, and then the simultaneous, I’m not just trying to get a job to pay rent – which I am, but also I’m here to do something.
That became kind of what I’m doing now. I’ve been here for 11 years or 12 now, and it’s like finally kind of coming to its full fruition and that’s a long, long path of dedication which is obviously not over. It’s like the first flower now, is sort of what it feels like.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, I think it’s more than the first flower, I think you’ve got a pretty good garden growing there! But hopefully, it’s perennial as well as annuals, right?
Rachelle Robinett:
Great metaphor, yeah.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
So, let’s talk about how you landed on your entrepreneurial focus and how you named your company because all of that is part of your identity. So, how did that happen?
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah, it’s so funny. The company has even affected the way I dress now – I wear herbal fashion now!
So it did go through a couple of different variations in the beginning. Originally, the company was just RX, sort of like the prescription RX and that was kind of an early branding exploration that I had. Then fairly soon after that, I think when we became a little bit more official, it took a long time to come to the name Supernatural – which is funny because it makes sense and it’s a great name. We’re trademarking it and all those important steps, which is hard to do with a name like Supernatural.
But it actually took multiple brainstorming sessions over the course of many months with a couple of different people that I really respect, to articulate what exactly are we doing here? In the early days, it was not as clear as it is now, what exactly are we doing here? I think that herbalism and nutrition and holistic health and functional medicine are so many things, that it can be hard to put a label on it.
My title has changed so many times: holistic health practitioner, wellness coach, all these different things, because we are talking about nutrition and we’re talking about herbs and supplements and lifestyle habits and all these different things.
But Supernatural really represents obviously… I don’t even think I have to explain Supernatural! It’s a good name, people get it. I am working with the natural world and I’m primarily with plant-based remedies, food, and herbalism to help people be super well.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, it’s interesting to me, the name or the title or the word Supernatural can connote multiple things to multiple people, right? Which is really kind of cool, because a person can read in their own kind of perspective, because so Supernatural could be ‘above natural.’ It could be ‘the best of natural,’ right? That’s one kind of literal translation. Another is, it could be ‘beyond natural.’ It could be in the hereafter. It could be in the environment of the ether of the id that we don’t understand. And it probably draws people from both philosophical camps I would imagine, doesn’t it?
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. Yeah, it does, and they’re all welcome here too. They’re all very welcome in the herbal world because I think in herbalism you can take a very functional perspective, or you can be much more interested in the mystical or energetic or supernatural realms of the plant world. So, it works for everyone and this works for everyone, yeah.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
So, tell me a little bit about how a person would connect in with your company?
Rachelle Robinett:
Mm-hmm, yeah, let’s see. I would say most people find us online first these days, as happens. I have an Instagram following, we have both one for Supernatural and myself, and the people tend to find us there. We also have a weekly newsletter, which is really popular so a lot of people are linked in digitally to that and getting a lot of kind of advice there. Then we do have the physical cafe. So, we have basically a tea shop and an apothecary, a wall of herbs and this really great space where you can come in and see and touch and feel and taste all the things that we talk about online. You can get custom blended herbs. You can shop all the products that I recommend all day long to clients in classes. It’s a really nice physical presence for Supernatural. Or you can do that all online with our online shop, with online classes. So, there’s more Supernatural online than in-person, but if you’re in New York or Brooklyn, then you can swing by the shop and meet us there. Yeah.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
So, what’s your address?
Rachelle Robinett:
Our address. So, we’re at Industry City, it’s like a mini-city in Brooklyn. Our address is 254 36th street, but most people just know Industry City is the destination, and then you can find Supernatural there – it’s in Sunset Park in Brooklyn.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Awesome. Well, congratulations. I know it’s a step along the journey, but it’s some pretty good steps you’ve laid down there, it’s very exciting.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. Thank you.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Let’s jump back now a little bit to our shared enthusiasm, advocacy, and work for this concept of regenerating the planet, and the plant world as part of what I think is a planetary immune system.
When we look from a Big Bold Health perspective, and people have asked me, “So Jeff, you’ve been around here for a lot of decades. Why are you doing this? I mean, can’t you just kind of sit as a senior citizen and weigh in on opinions? Why would you start a company, Big Bold Health?”
My answer to that is fairly simple. And that is, first of all, in four-plus decades of doing this, I feel like I have a payback because I’ve really been so fortunate to meet, and be impacted in a favorable way by so many remarkable people in my 6 million miles of travel and all the things that I’ve had the privilege of doing that. I feel that comes a little bit with a payback to hand off what I’ve learned that might be of value to others – so that was number one.
But number two, I felt that having started off as a professor of environmental science and chemistry at the University of Puget Sound in 1970 on Earth Day – that’s why I was hired actually, was because they were trying to find a professor to start an environmental science program out of the chemistry department because it was Earth Day’s first year, and they wanted to be part of that rising academic opportunity. I started as an environmental scientist and chemist at the University of Puget Sound, and over the years, I found that those two things really served me very well. In the 13 years I was a professor there, in teaching both on the biochemistry side and the clinical medicine side and also teaching on the environmental science side, that they actually married themselves together in my mind as a healthy planet, healthy people, and vice versa.
So now, as I see what’s going on in the world at large, and have become more understanding of the important role that the immune system plays in how we 24/7, 365 as people defend ourselves against things out there that might want to take advantage of us. Not just SARS-CoV-2 and not just cold and flu, but all sorts of things: chemicals and toxins and toxic emotions and all sorts of things. All of that becomes part of my belief that the immune system is kind of the center of the locus of control of help – because it’s something that’s sampling our outside world 24/7, and it changes.
Every two months our immune system is reborn. People don’t understand that, that two months from now the cells that we call our immune cells will be different than the ones that are here today.
So, will they be as good as, better than, or worse than the ones we have today? That’s the question. We can reform or remake the immune system based upon how we treat it and how we relate to it.
With that as a concept, when I was waxing philosophical as I often do on a Monday morning after going to a meeting, my colleague, Trish Eury, who has worked with me now for over 25 years now said, “Jeff, it’s really great that you’re always on your soapbox here when you come back on Monday, but you’re a big guy and these are bold ideas – maybe you need to start another company called Big Bold Health, and really give you a platform to talk about this.” So, that became for me the start of this some two and a half years ago, and then from that, it led me into two things that I have been intimately involved in as, I guess you’d call them hobbies. One is Alaska fishing. In the Alaska fishing community and Alaska native populations, boating and kayaking and exploration have been my kind of family hobby, and now my kids are involved with that, and now their kids, my grandkids, are involved in it. So we’re all kind of Alaskan adventurers. The other is agriculture and food production, and sustainable agriculture and organic, which I’ve been involved with for 30 something years and so I thought, “Could I marry those two together in such a way to make them tools for Big Bold Health?”
Through that, then, led to a series of what I call coincidences – they probably weren’t coincidences – but the serendipities that led me into Himalayan Tartary Buckwheat and led me into a sustainable fish oil product. We built the first pharmaceutical-grade plant in Dutch Harbor, Alaska out on the Aleutians. So now here I am back in the commercial world, but my advocacy has been around nurturing the planet and connecting the immune system of the planet to the immune system of people in a harmonious way.
Then that led me obviously back to you! Because although you’ve taken your own individual approach, our approaches do converge in terms of what we’re trying to accomplish. So with all of that long-winded hot air that I just expressed, tell us a little about your mission and how this connects this concept of regenerative agriculture, natural herbal products – how it connects into your philosophy.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh, so many things to respond to. Firstly, I mean, the Alaskan salmon, I grew up on that and to this day it’s the epitome of a perfect food! That surprises people because I’m a plant-based advocate, but, man, this wild Alaskan salmon that’s caught well and respectfully – I just don’t know if you can beat that.
It’s really neat to hear more of your journey. My mission is to help people to understand their own health better, their own body and mind and that relationship, and absolutely that full relationship to the natural world. It’s less of a relationship and more recognizing that we just are a part of the natural world, and we are progressively forgetting that, or progressively becoming disconnected and not understanding how we actually relate to the light that’s coming in through the window, or the water that we’re drinking, or the food.
So, I really want to empower people to be able to live in their body, mind, environment better – I think that happens through simplifying so much of this information and just making it accessible, making it cool, making it inspiring, and practical. This stuff, we’re in it every minute of every day, and it’s not an indulgence and it doesn’t have to be an extra thing, like it is the stuff of life and it can be preventative. It can also reverse a frightening diagnosis. I mean, all these things you know, and I want to give that to people and do, to give that to people and they get a little taste of that change.
From there, it’s like the whole world opens up. When you can feel the change or you can see the change, and a lot of times people have been trying for so long and kind of stuck. I think that we again, try to simplify and make it really practical and also make it relate directly to this world that we’re in all the time, is what really helps.
For me, yes, it’s plant-based. This all does come back to nature and it’s really just that we are all that system. We get ill when we get disconnected, or don’t kind of understand how to relate to each other.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Yeah.
Rachelle Robinett:
Did I answer your question?
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, first of all, these great questions of life never have complete answers, right? What I find is that they’re answers in progress because each day we learn a little bit more and we never learn enough to be complete – unless maybe we’re some zen master maybe. But for most of us, we aspire to learn more each day towards some kind of self-realization, self-understanding, and I think that this contrast that you’ve set up and how you’re doing it, to me, it’s very enlightened.
I have granddaughters coming up and I’m hopeful my granddaughters will find in their lives as they become young women, and well they are becoming young women – as they become older young women, that they will have this advocacy to take the things that they’ve learned and been exposed to and had an opportunity to integrate into their lives and take that out to their broader constituency, because I think it’s that advocacy.
I believe also that we are in an epic period where feminine energy is going to be really, really important for the healing of the planet and for the re-consolidation of global communities. I think that there was a time probably where the male energy that’s driven by one pentacyclic molecule—testosterone—was advantageous because a lot of stuff that was done was manual labor and moving stuff around and picking stuff up and pushing stuff from one place to another.
Maybe there is, I mean, probably is arguable, but I think there might be some advantages from a mechanical musculo-strength basis for the male with the higher testosterone levels and in greater muscular strength to survive in those kinds of environments. So maybe there is something about maleness in early-stage societal development, but I think over time, and certainly, in this time, different kinds of energies become very important, cooperative energies. Energies of collaboration, energies of deeper thought and communication, maybe less the specifics of the piece parts and more of why the watch works as a watch rather than worrying about each of the springs and gears.
So I think that this period of time in which we start talking about the complexity of the world as a guide to the simplexity of our life, that concept of simplexity. So, we absorb complexity to understand how simple our life can be if we get rid of a bunch of garbage out of the house, and we clear out space to really be free living. I think that’s what you’re teaching, and that’s what you represent.
That’s to some extent what we’re trying to do in Big Bold Health. We’re trying to redefine health as being big and bold and owned by the individual, as to what their definition of health is – it may be different than someone else’s. For one person, it may be “I want to run a marathon.” For another person that might be “I want to go to my grandchildren’s college graduation.” It could be many different things that define our health. But to define it and then provide an access to it so that it is big and bold in its achievement, is a mandate for Big Bold Health.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that that’s what comes through about Supernatural because I think that’s very much a personal priority too, which is this creating space and creating this simplicity and – I’m thinking about so many things now, from the physical clutter to the digital clutter of this world that we live in, all of the intakes that we have, and really just reducing it to, funny enough, some of the things we’ve known all along are responsible for our health – which comes from the natural world.
So, yeah.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
So, I want to acknowledge the art and style side of your being, because I think as I’ve grown up – my sister is an artist. She’s a commercial artist. My niece, her daughter, was a Berkeley fine arts graduate and is quite an artist in her own right, has done illustrations for children’s books, and is really skilled.
I wasn’t granted that talent in terms of the visual arts. I thought of myself more, maybe hopefully a little artistic with words and language, but I was not a kind of an artist of the same type, but I’ve always admired it. Now what I recognize, is that everything is art in life, if you see it in the right way. Everything fits into an artful framework. The more that you can accentuate the art component of it, the more it speaks not just to your inductive reasoning, it speaks to the deeper sense of where we are, our soulful being.
If you really want to have an impact in this world, you can’t just speak to the frontal cortex of the brain. You’ve got to speak to the deep emotive parts that drive people’s behaviors and their belief systems, and that is somewhere in their art center. It’s somewhere in their soul of art.
So, you’re very artful person. And the reason I know that is not just because you’ve told me that you are, but because I look at how you present yourself on your podcast and your social media. I also saw what you did recently for us with our Big Bold Health Tartary Buckwheat flour and I thought, “Man, that little kind of video compilation you put together with the different recipes that you mixed, that is really artful.”
So, where does that come from? That’s cool.
Rachelle Robinett:
Where does it come from? I think it’s also nature and nurture. I’m thinking I have certain relatives who are poets and can draw. I can’t draw for anything. But I always loved making potions and I do write, and I love taking photos, and I had all these different sorts of artistic explorations, they’re sort of in my person. It was a little bit of a problem when I was younger. It’s like, what do you want to be when you grow up? Because you can’t be all those different things. Ultimately, I went to business school. My heart wanted to be an artist, but I went to business school. So now, what I’m doing is integrating my whole person in this current space, which is Supernatural, which does allow me to be artful.
I mean, just as an aside, working with plants and with beautiful food, I mean, to me, that is art all day long. It is just gorgeous to cut open the ripe tomato or brew rose petals. And I have my face in that stuff all day, which is total joy. I think just turning it around thanks to social media, and letting people see the recipes that I am playing with or the herbs that I’m formulating or whatever it is, for me, I get to combine kind of the love of nature, a love of the art of photography or video, the recipes and the real magic of making food medicine or herbal medicine. Then again, thanks to digital, now I can just kind of put it out in the world and you can all see a sort of behind the scenes.
But it comes from, yeah, kind of a combination of being truly obsessed with the beauty of what nature produces, and then we get to eat, drink, and see and smell, and also having part of my person still want to be an artist, which I fully intend to do!
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, I think you are. Your intention has been met. It’s just a question of how you’re going to grow that up and expand it over time. But one of the things that struck me was really, and I’m sure you noticed this, when you did some work on our Himalayan Tartary Buckwheat flour, and you produced some really beautiful products, some recipe products from that. I’m sure you noticed that as you started to work with that particular flour as contrasted to other flours, it undergoes color changes, right?
Rachelle Robinett:
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
It undergoes color changes. From my brain, my chemistry side says the reason it undergoes color changes as you add fluid to it and other ingredients, that it then activates specific enzymes in that live flour, because it’s very live, and those enzymes start pre-digesting some of those flavonoids into other compounds that become very bioactive and they have colors to them. So, I’m sure-
Rachelle Robinett:
Exactly.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
… you’ve noticed that it actually, the fresh flour has one color, but once hydrated and it sits around in the bowl for a while it becomes another color, and then if you put it in the refrigerator and put a cover on it and come back a few days later, it becomes another color, because it’s actually undergoing a live process of generating downstream secondary metabolites from these polyphenols.
Rachelle Robinett:
That’s so cool!
Dr. Jeff Bland:
So, it’s a really interesting example of art and science kind of…
Rachelle Robinett:
That’s very true.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Yeah.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah, and I didn’t know that that would be the cause. But now knowing that or hearing that and sharing that with people, that is so inspiring and that alone would convince me to have more of this flour and less of any other flour. I think the ability to share, again, is kind of the magic of nature. It does a lot of the work for me, at least. Just communicating, this is what’s actually happening out there. You probably want some of it. People are like, “Yes, I do, actually.” I love knowing the science.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
When I started playing around with that particular seed – it’s not a grain, it’s a seed, I was amazed to see that so much of its genes are dedicated to producing nearly 100 different phytochemicals. I started asking the question, well, how does that compare to common buckwheat? First of all, it’s a shame that we call these things buckwheat because putting wheat in the name suggests that they’re some relationship to wheat, which they’re not at all – they have no genealogical connection to wheat at all. But anyway, that’s the way the name happens. So, it’s stuck. So I asked the question, what’s the difference between common buckwheat and this Tartary buckwheat that we’ve been using and developing? And it turns out that the genes of the Tartary buckwheat, although they have similarity to common buckwheat, code for producing more than 60 to 100 times (not percent, times) as much of these phytochemicals as common buckwheat.
So then I asked the question, well, why would a plant spend so much of its energy to have genes that made so much of this stuff? I mean, it doesn’t do it because it doesn’t have anything else to do with its life, it does it for a reason! Then you go back to its history, knowing that it’s been consumed as a food for about 2,500 years—it’s a longer age than that—and it grew up in the very hostile Himalayan mountain region, Southern Himalayas, and under very hostile conditions. To survive, it wasn’t irrigated, it had to sit out in the sun, it gets sunburned and it had pests and it had all these… it actually grew in very bad soils, very high aluminum soils. So it turns out that it developed genes that detoxify aluminum, it produces all these plant insecticides that are these polyphenols that keep insects from eating it, it has anti-sunburn cream built in that are these flavonoids, and it basically survived against all hostile elements that would normally have put plants in that environment that wouldn’t survive.
So, then I asked the metaphorical question, well, what is that plant really doing? What it’s really doing is it’s evolved its immune system. If it’s evolved its immune system, then what happens if we eat that plant? Because those things speak to our immune system. It’s really kind of an interesting network of thinking of how we’re interconnected in this whole cycle. So, all of that to me just drew me in. It became my Big Bold Health kind of, okay, this is a metaphor to everything we’re trying to do.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah, absolutely fascinating. Yeah. And I mean, as soon as I started down this sort of plant path, obviously, I’m hooked because I think that nature is just full of stories like that – that plant is clearly exceptional. Then I think that the herbal world, which is really just the natural world has so many similar kinds of stories.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, now tell me in on our few minutes remaining, now that you’ve hacked your path into the forest of the unknown, you laid your first stepping stones—well, not your first—many of your stepping stones. Where do you see your journey taking you? What’s your big dream? What’s your hairy, audacious goal?
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. So, I just want to bring this to as many people as possible. I am scaling Supernatural in every direction that we can to be not less one-to-one, but more one-to-many, and bringing all of our education online. We have more and more online classes. There will be a book or books in the future. Our product line is expanding quite quickly. For the most part, right now, it’s about up and out and just getting in touch with as many people as possible. I want to empower people to understand their health and be able to navigate this space connect with nature better every day. Doesn’t seem so unreasonable!
Dr. Jeff Bland:
No, I think it seems very reasonable and it’s going to happen just by your energy, your force of nature, and your commitment! But I think you said something there that’s really a watch word for all of our viewers. I have distilled down a philosophy of life into two alternatives. One, you’ve already expressed very, very well: up and out. The other is down and in. Down and in versus up and out. Under those two very gross headings, you could put all sorts of subtopics. But if you’re on the down-and-in side, it takes you in a certain direction. If you’re on the up-and-out side, it takes you in a different direction. Now it has been my thought that we as a society right now are caught a little bit too much in the down-and-in. And we’re in a do loop of the down-and-in model, and we can see where it takes us. It doesn’t take us into a good place if that is your only vision of your future, is down and in. And I think what you just said is so prescient and so informative that we need to find a way, each one of us individually, as to what helps to take us up-and-out rather than down-and-in.
Now for you, your passion has provided a vehicle for not only you, but many others to share that vision to find an up-and-out route to express our goodness. I think there are a lot of people who are on the down-and-in path and what is forcing them to do is not express their goodness, but express their angst, their anxiety, their anger, their rage, their frustration, their feeling of inadequacy, their feeling of being lost. When you’re in that do loop, I believe that it takes you into a place over time that is not going to be in the best interest of getting the full expression of what your genes are capable of doing. For most of us, we’re given this legacy, right? Our book of life. And it’s up to us to figure out how we’re going to read our book of life in our genetics, and what it’s going to become as we grow up and go on.
I think that this model that you’ve just described that is underpinning your business and your philosophy personally up-and-out, is a model that I hope everyone listens to that’s watching this podcast.
Rachelle Robinett:
Yeah. Me too. So well said. And I have to say, I also really appreciate your continued reference to health as individual, and therefore relative. There’s a lot, especially as the wellness industries become this big machine all for the better – mostly for the better – but to understand that it’s not so much about what the industry or the trends are dictating, but individually we can all improve our health, have our health, change the path that maybe we’re starting on. So, I just really appreciate that point as well.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, in the course notes, we’re obviously going to give your referral of information to your website and so forth, but do you want to just verbally say it for people that are hanging on every word and would like to look it up immediately?
Rachelle Robinett:
Yes. Find Supernatural at ursupernatural and that’s the letter U, the letter R, supernatural.com. It’s all there. You’ll find Instagram and the online store and cafe and all the herbal education you will ever need hopefully there. Thank you.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Well, I can say on behalf of our Big Bold Health co-immunity, coIMMUNITY, that-
Rachelle Robinett:
Very good. I like that.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
… we are very, very appreciative of who you are, what you’re doing, where you’re going. We need so many people like you creating the world that will be. I want to leave this world to my grandkids and beyond, that will be as good or better than the opportunities I have and you’re doing that through your work.
So, thank you so, so much. We really appreciate all that you are. Be well.
Rachelle Robinett:
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Good, good. Yes. Well, I’m loving it and it really it’s a huge compliment to be able to do some work with you. So, thanks for having me.
Dr. Jeff Bland:
Okay. Be well, bye-bye.
Rachelle Robinett:
Thanks, you too. Bye.
